Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Clinic?

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Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Clinic?

Postby Bill Call » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:25 am

I suspect that the Mayor and Council are to eager to make a deal.

The bad deal will include;

Acquiescence to the transfer of most medical services to Lorain County.
The City will agree to the loss of millions in tax revenue.
The City will agree to the loss of hundreds of millions in economic activity.
The City will agree to hold the Clinic harmless for its breach of contract and restraint of trade.

The Clinic will agree to call the minute clinic Lakewood Hospital.

All parties will then announce with great fanfare that the Hospital has been saved!

Here is a better plan.

The Clinic honors is contractual obligation to maintain a full service hospital with modern equipment and facilities.

The Clinic restores all the jobs transferred to Avon including all doctors and specialists.

The Clinic guarantees that Lakewood Hospital will have on it's full time staff at least as many professional employees in Lakewood as the Clinic has in Westlake and Avon.

If the Clinic agrees to do that we will have a deal.

If the Clinic fails to do that we will have a lawsuit.

DO NOT ACCEPT A GLORIFIED MINUTE CLINIC IN PLACE OF A HOSPITAL


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Scott Meeson » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:44 am

Bill Call wrote:I suspect that the Mayor and Council are to eager to make a deal.

The bad deal will include;

Acquiescence to the transfer of most medical services to Lorain County.
The City will agree to the loss of millions in tax revenue.
The City will agree to the loss of hundreds of millions in economic activity.
The City will agree to hold the Clinic harmless for its breach of contract and restraint of trade.

The Clinic will agree to call the minute clinic Lakewood Hospital.

All parties will then announce with great fanfare that the Hospital has been saved!

Here is a better plan.

The Clinic honors is contractual obligation to maintain a full service hospital with modern equipment and facilities.

The Clinic restores all the jobs transferred to Avon including all doctors and specialists.

The Clinic guarantees that Lakewood Hospital will have on it's full time staff at least as many professional employees in Lakewood as the Clinic has in Westlake and Avon.

If the Clinic agrees to do that we will have a deal.

If the Clinic fails to do that we will have a lawsuit.

DO NOT ACCEPT A GLORIFIED MINUTE CLINIC IN PLACE OF A HOSPITAL


Bill,

Could you help me understand why we need to make any deal with Cleveland Clinic?

Scott Meeson


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Bill Call » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:54 pm

Scott Meeson wrote:
Bill,

Could you help me understand why we need to make any deal with Cleveland Clinic?

Scott Meeson


That's a good question.

Before I weigh in perhaps one of our elected officials can post their opinion.


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Bill Call » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:29 am

It seems likely.

To fend off a law suit I guess the City and Clinic will insist that the hospital is not closing but if you need surgery or need to see a doctor you have to go to Avon.

This is called meeting community needs. I can understand why the Clinic wants to engage in this subterfuge but I can't understand why the Mayor and Council endorse the subterfuge.

Think of the Cleveland Clinic as the General Motors of the health care industry. Eventually the Clinic will do as much for Cleveland as GM did for Detroit.


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:19 am

I love how Dr Cosgrove said that medical needs are changing. Lakewood doesn't need a hospital... but it will stay until AVON GETS A HOSPITAL?!? WTF?!?

How many think Summers will have some connection with whoever gets the development rights of the new prime real estate? I am willing to put money on it.


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Amy Martin » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:20 am

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What a shame. Our mayor needs to be impeached.


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:21 am

The Mayor said, "lets not think of it as we are losing something" "we look forward to the conversation with our residents" "this decision makes sense"


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:23 am

" We have to go backwards to go forwards" "The near term loses will be significant we recognize them." "We need to fill up the empty space"


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Grace O'Malley » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:23 am

We don't need a hospital? Excuse me but who the F are THEY to tell US we don't need a hospital? We are being treated like dirt by CCF and the city is collaborating with them.

SHAME on them all for what they are doing. Cater to the rich white demographic, as usual.


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:24 am

"It will be a challenge, we understand that." "We keep a tight belt, we will have to keep it tighter" "We will emerge stronger than ever"


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:26 am

Cosgrove - "Lakewood is only 3.3 miles to fairview and 5.5 miles to lutheran"

Lakewood has 50,000 people where is our LEADER!?? Mayor has to go.


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:27 am

Mayor - "We have the element of time"?? He just said we have to move quickly to make up for the financial loss. Is he completely lost??


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:28 am

Mayor - "We are announcing the path forward towards reinvestment"


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:29 am

Cosgrove "ONCE WE ARE IN A COMMUNITY WE ARE COMMITTED TO A COMMUNITY!" REALLY?!?@?


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Re: Is The Mayor About to Make A Bad Deal With Cleveland Cli

Postby Ryan Salo » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:34 am

Mayor - we don't need a hospital we need more people to exercise...


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