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Richard Baker
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City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Richard Baker » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:02 pm

The mayor and city council should concentrate on providing manpower for basic services to the residents instead of pursuing and duplicating liberal socialist programs. The city vacuumed our leaves off our tree lawns on Nov 1st. They just returned in a failed attempt to vacuum the leaves off the dead grass tree lawn on Nov 18. The leaf pile was so high on the tree lawn that it covered part of the sidewalk and gutter. I would post a pic of the remaining layer of leaves in the gutter, sidewalk and tree lawn after their inept attempt to remove the leaves. The picture would illustrate how inefficient the city’s cab controlled vacuum truck is for cleaning up the leaves. Not only did the city leave leaves still covering the tree lawn grass, and sidewalk, they also left them in the gutter. Why would a city pickup truck be following the leaf vacuum truck, is this keeping city policy that no job is to small or automated for less the two city trucks?

The tree lawn grass will probably die because the city took 17 days to return and partially vacuum up the leaves, but why should I be concerned, they will salt them to death this winter.


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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Jim O'Bryan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:53 am

Richard Baker wrote:The mayor and city council should concentrate on providing manpower for basic services to the residents instead of pursuing and duplicating liberal socialist programs. The city vacuumed our leaves off our tree lawns on Nov 1st. They just returned in a failed attempt to vacuum the leaves off the dead grass tree lawn on Nov 18. The leaf pile was so high on the tree lawn that it covered part of the sidewalk and gutter.

The tree lawn grass will probably die because the city took 17 days to return and partially vacuum up the leaves, but why should I be concerned, they will salt them to death this winter.


Richard

Little cranky today?

"pursuing and duplicating liberal socialist programs" Care to elaborate? If it is the mediocre public art storm, perhaps we can agree.

The grass will recover, it always does. Besides I am sure if you look at your deed, you will find you are arguing over city property not your property. You merely have the care taking ownership. At my house it is 10'.

At the same time I understand your frustration, and will note, traffic and city services are the low bar for complaints. Always an easy target. With that said services which just won an award, has had staffing cut by nearly 50% since the days of Madeline Cain. All in an effort to keep another one of your favorite complaints down, "taxes."

I feel your pain, I really do, but IMHO the city and the staff are doing miracles with little to work with, in a down turned economy.

Neither this administration nor staff, liquidated hundreds of millions in public assets, even squandering much of the Dick Jacobs dollars on true smoke and mirrors to buy votes, to get their hands on property and foundation dollars.

Story of the Award and most of the city service staff...
http://media.lakewoodobserver.com/issue_pdfs/Observer_Vol_18_Issue_22.pdf

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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Amy Martin » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:12 am

and somehow, bitching about leaves morphs into the Hospital situation - my point in a previous point exactly.


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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Jim O'Bryan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:57 am

Amy Martin wrote:and somehow, bitching about leaves morphs into the Hospital situation - my point in a previous point exactly.



No Amy, complaining about the lack of people, employees, and $$$$$ leads to way more than the hospital.

Are you saying the $290,000,000+ loss of city assets means nothing? Would it be better to sanitize it so those that did the dirty deed, or newbies are not bothered by putting a name to the red ink?

98% if not more of life in Lakewood has nothing to do with the Holespital. I know that. But when we talk about the City's ability to spend dollars in any form (equipment, staff, hours...) on the real issues in Lakewood, it is always good to remind all, who drove the car in the ditch.

($290,000,000 = about 4 years of total city funding. We the taxpayers received $1.00, which is 1/71,000,00th of the yearly budget)

You have to admit, pretty staggering change of fortune for us residents.

I am not as worried about dead grass and leaves, but I share Richard's concern about how we cover our bills.

If that makes you uncomfortable, I am sorry.

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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Richard Baker » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:14 pm

Little cranky today?

"pursuing and duplicating liberal socialist programs" Care to elaborate? If it is the mediocre public art storm, perhaps we can agree.

Jim,

Not really, but then I came from a generation that if you do a job, you do it right, or don't do it at all. I have no problem about cab-controlled equipment to increase productivity and making it easier for the city street crews, but not at the expense of sloppy results. If there is insuffienct equipment, or personnel to clean up leaves causing the operators to hurry on a hit and miss sloppy clean up schedule, then purchase the equipment and put the supervisors behind the wheels.

Duplicate services provide by Cuyahoga County of Aging and Cuyahoga County Health and Human Services.

Then there is the Lakewood Division of Early Childhood,
• Their notation that all children under the age of 5 should be tested for lead when City of Lakewood has thousands of lead service lines to city residents’ homes.
• Payment for fifty percent of daycare for families with gross household income must be considered low-moderate income under HUD guidelines up to $60,800 for a family of four. The Ohio medium income is $70,209 for a family with two people working or one
is $54,887. Why is Lakewood providing daycare assistance to families below or just above Ohio medium incomes? Does this suggest this is a vested interest program?

Let compare Ohio's real equality in social services by examining the Ohio Homestead Act. A political ageism scam that pretends to lower seniors on fixed income property taxes so they can continue to live in the homes. To qualify the medium of income is over 65 and one or both income of the household under $34,600. Why do you think you see seniors working at Home Depot, Lowes, etc., they are working there so they can pay for the recent huge increases in property taxes.


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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Mark Kindt » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:59 am

Can anyone recommend a contact for me for office space outside of Lakewood? Time to bite that bullet.


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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby pj bennett » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:33 pm

Mark Kindt wrote:Can anyone recommend a contact for me for office space outside of Lakewood? Time to bite that bullet.


I don’t have any contacts, but I think, that the West Park area would be good for relocation. It’s not all that far, from where you are now.


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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Dan Alaimo » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:06 am

I had an office in one of the West Gate buildings for many years and found it a good value - decent building and comparatively low rent.


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Re: City Leaf Pick Up?

Postby Jim O'Bryan » Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:13 am

Mark Kindt wrote:Can anyone recommend a contact for me for office space outside of Lakewood? Time to bite that bullet.



Mark

If you are serious, you might try a discussion board in another city where you would like to move to. Asking about business space in the middle of a discussion of one hard core Republicans complaint about city services while not willing to pay a penny more might not be the right place for a serious look at new offices.

I am glad we spoke yesterday, and I found out that indeed you have an office problem, with no heat, I would start a rent strike until fixed. I was also pleasantly surprised that you were very open to other office possibilities in Lakewood. The city has lost far too many thinkers to "Leakwood."

I feel your pain, I am not sure moving cures it or just brings on new issues.

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