Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

The jumping off discussion area for the rest of the Deck. All things Lakewood.
Please check out our other sections. As we refile many discussions from the past into
their proper sections please check them out and offer suggestions.

Moderators: Jim DeVito, Dan Alaimo

User avatar
Jim O'Bryan
Posts: 14109
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:12 pm
Location: Lakewood
Contact:

Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Jim O'Bryan » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:41 am

While Mayor Summers assured us the "Active Living Task Force" had nothing to do with the Cleveland Clinic, his deposition claims it was the Clinic's idea for selling the idea. While Jay Foran director of the active living task force assured us it had nothing to do with the Hospital Debacle, the Mayor's testemoney also hints at using it "to take" other assets in the city including Rec Department, Sports Fields, and other property.

Summers, Michael - Vol. 1 (1/20/2016), (Pages 157:23 to 163:5)
                           157
Question: Exhibit 34, what is that, that's in front of you, as well?
Mayor Summers' Answer: Well, this was, I think, the Clinic, as espoused by Dr. Bronson, with his community-based approach to improving the health of the citizens of Lakewood, the community of Lakewood.

Question: All right.  Now, the date on that appears to be May 15th, 2004.
Mayor Summers' Answer: There were several iterations prior to this.

Question: 2014, right?
Mayor Summers' Answer: 2014.

Question: Correct.  I'm sorry.
Mayor Summers' Answer: Yeah, there were a couple iterations before this. This is Version 8.  This was sort of a living strategic document --

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: -- that reflected, I think, the Clinic's, particularly Dr. Bronson's, view of the evolving nature of both need in the community and some community-based approaches to address those needs.

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: So we understood this particular proposal, and it meant closing the hospital as we knew it as an inpatient facility.

Question: Can you back up, now, on that exhibit there, 34, that you have in front of you.  Version 8, can you take me through the sequence, you know, the time frame from Version 1 to Version 8, what are we looking at here, as far as --
Mayor Summers' Answer: I don't think it changed in terms of substance.  I think there was some refinement of details.

Question: So would have this all been 2014 that these versions were coming together?
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, I believe they started -- we saw the first ones in 2013.

Question: 13, okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: In a broad concept. And Page 9 reflects, I think, the broad-based approach that was contemplated here, where you had some leading organizations --
MR. EHRENFELT:  I'm sorry, which exhibit are we on?
THE WITNESS:  Exhibit 34, Page 9.
MR. EHRENFELT:  Thank you.

Mayor Summers' Answer: That in order to achieve true community-based engagement, you would need the four at the top, City of Lakewood, Hospital Association, the Foundation, Cleveland Clinic.  In addition, you would need the engagement of other partners, such as, but not necessarily specifically, the YMCA, the City Schools, the Rec Department, the Community West Foundation, perhaps others.

Question: Okay.  And is this the genesis, then, of the discussions concerning Rec Center, or the use of the property for something other than for health care?
Mayor Summers' Answer: This was the Cleveland Clinic's view of, to take a community to higher levels of wellness, and to do it on a preventative basis, or early detection, that there had to be a significant engagement of active living.

Question: I understand that. So you had established an Active Living Task Force; is that correct?
Mayor Summers' Answer: Subsequently.  Yeah, subsequently.

Question: So that was after 2014, that Active Living started up, or after the first version?
Mayor Summers' Answer: Probably during 2014.

Question: 2014.
Mayor Summers' Answer: Yeah.

Question: Did you ever indicate to either the members of Lakewood Hospital Association Board, or to the administrators of the Cleveland Clinic, a preference of creating a community center or athletic facilities on the hospital property?
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, not in any detail.  I think there was a recognition in Lakewood that, one, we don't have a lot of land to do any of these types of things well; and secondly, we already had a lot of pieces and parts here; and thirdly, that kind of approach would have to take a significant amount of community engagement. So this was Dr. Bronson's view --

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: -- it was not necessarily my view.  Although I agreed with many pieces and parts of this.  But it was never -- this was never a City-based plan.

Question: Did you have the Active Living Task Force -- who was that, Jay Foran, that was the Chair of that?
Mayor Summers' Answer: There were several members.

Question: Okay.  Jay was very involved in it?
Mayor Summers' Answer: He was, yeah.

Question: Okay.  Were there discussions between you and Mr. Foran concerning the creation of a recreation or community center at the hospital?
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, I think there were questions of, what do we have, what do we need, what's missing, and how might we, as a community, if we're going to re-engage in our second century, which is a pretty common conversation around here, that how can we reconfigure or reuse or adapt our parks, our schools -- which we don't control the City side -- and any piece that would allow us to take -- to increase the opportunity for a citizen to become more physically active, and therefore improve their health.

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: So it was a wide open conversation, and remains so.

Question: All right.  So 2013, one of the versions, as what you've indicated for Exhibit Number 34, and this was initiated by Dr. Bronson; is that correct?
Mayor Summers' Answer: That's correct.

Question: All right.  And you didn't have to -- you did not encourage him or indicate to him that you thought that that would be an outpatient -- the elimination of an inpatient facility of Lakewood Hospital would be okay with you.
MR. CAHILL:  Objection to form.
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, no, I did not indicate it would be okay.

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: We were halfway or two thirds through a strategic review of options. Subsequently, we needed to know, was there somebody who could provide another delivery.

Question: So on the sequence, then, you had nine versions of Exhibit 34 that were the Cleveland Clinic proposals, and then at some point in time, then, an RFP was sent out to see if there were other interested parties, and that is what Exhibit Number 33 was part of; is that correct?
MR. CAHILL:  Objection to the extent it misstates facts.
Mayor Summers' Answer: This was the -- should a party indicate interest, they would have gotten this.

Question: Okay.  All right. Did the Cleveland Clinic get this, 33?
Mayor Summers' Answer: I don't know, because we already knew they were not interested in the inpatient.  You know, you mentioned this clause, you know, of inpatient requirements.  And we knew their views --

Yet another charade uncovered, and the lies that hid it.

.


Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident

"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg

"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Bridget Conant
Posts: 2895
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:22 pm

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Bridget Conant » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:59 am

So Dr Bronson, of the high and mighty, has decided FOR US what we need in Lakewood and is TELLING us what we need. No, you don't need a full service hospital you unwashed masses, just get off your asses and walk or ride a bike.

Does he live in Lakewood? Has he been elected to public office in Lakewood?

What gives him the right to dictate what Lakewood should have or is entitled to?

He, who lives in a million dollar home in Moreland Hills, telling us that all we need in terms of health care is recreational facilities.

This gets more and more disgusting. He's on the same level with Dr Jones, who worries that someone in Lorain County might be inconvenienced having to drive to Lakewood - so his solution is to close Lakewood Hospital and open a new hospital in Lorain County to serve all the 100 people he "worries" about inconveniencing.

These people don't care about you, me, or the little old lady in the Westerly. We are collateral.

How and why was it so easy for these people to take control of our city "leaders?"


User avatar
Jim O'Bryan
Posts: 14109
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:12 pm
Location: Lakewood
Contact:

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Jim O'Bryan » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:22 am

Bridget Conant wrote:How and why was it so easy for these people to take control of our city "leaders?"


Bridget

I find it hard to blame Custer(Clinic) for the massacre, they are a corporation.

But I am beginning to have real problems with the "Indian Scouts" (about 20 people) that have continuously sold this city out for their own personal gains, though they have nearly ZERO success, which would back up their level of expertise in both city and social engineering.

It was our elected officials and city leaders, that sold this city down the river, yet again for development and soccer fields, and now as testified to by the Mayor, "The Active Living Task Force gives them the tool to try to take anything they want. Rec Department? It's in there. Chamber of Commerce? It's in there. Nature's Bin? It's in there. Media? It's in there? Street Traffic, It's in there. Seniors, it's there. Kids, it's there. Schools and school property, its there.

A myopic power grab of the entire city, and turning PUBLIC ASSETS INTO PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS! (money laundering + RICO)

Interesting look back... http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13935&p=97767&hilit=money+laundering#p97767

.


Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident

"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg

"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
User avatar
Jim O'Bryan
Posts: 14109
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:12 pm
Location: Lakewood
Contact:

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Jim O'Bryan » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:56 am

Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Bridget Conant wrote:How and why was it so easy for these people to take control of our city "leaders?"


Bridget

I find it hard to blame Custer(Clinic) for the massacre, they are a corporation.

But I am beginning to have real problems with the "Indian Scouts" (about 20 people) that have continuously sold this city out for their own personal gains, though they have nearly ZERO success, which would back up their level of expertise in both city and social engineering.

It was our elected officials and city leaders, that sold this city down the river, yet again for development and soccer fields, and now as testified to by the Mayor, "The Active Living Task Force gives them the tool to try to take anything they want. Rec Department? It's in there. Chamber of Commerce? It's in there. Nature's Bin? It's in there. Media? It's in there? Street Traffic, It's in there. Seniors, it's there. Kids, it's there. Schools and school property, its there.

A myopic power grab of the entire city, and turning PUBLIC ASSETS INTO PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS! (money laundering + RICO)

Interesting look back... http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13935&p=97767&hilit=money+laundering#p97767

.


We are looking for the video of of Mayor Summers, Mary Louise Madigan, and Jay Foran assuring the rest City Council that "The Active Living Task Force has nothing to do with the liquidating of Lakewood Hospital." Many of us remember the moment, but...


.


Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident

"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg

"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Brian Essi
Posts: 2421
Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 11:46 am

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Brian Essi » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:34 pm

Did Dr. Bronson lead the Summers or did Summers lead Dr. Bronson?


David Anderson has no legitimate answers
james fitzgibbons
Posts: 412
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:34 pm

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby james fitzgibbons » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:27 am

Brian Essi wrote:Did Dr. Bronson lead the Summers or did Summers lead Dr. Bronson?

" TRICKY MIKE "


Brian Essi
Posts: 2421
Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 11:46 am

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Brian Essi » Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:14 am

In March, 2009, Jay Foran, Mary Ann Crampton, and Ed Fitzgerald collaborated with CCF's Mr. Gavin to present the Vision for Tomorrow--the prequel of the Master Agreement--Summers was in attendance when slides mentioning Lakewood City Schools and "health and wellness" outpatient thingies and such. They were all giddy about the future of the hospital and its longevity.

This presentation greased the 2010 move of trauma etc to Fairview and the bogus Vision for Tomorrow that Summers testified "never happened" and was "aspirational"

The exact wording of slides at the 2009 presentation that Jay Foran helped prepare made there way into the 2013 proposal that Summers testified was Bronson's plan. Jay and Mike are good buddies.

Last summer, Foran tild City Council that the Active Living thingy had nothing to do with the hospital or wrestling recreation away from education. But he deleted the task force report until the hospital deal was done and then in Feb 2016 Foran tied the two together.
hmmmm


David Anderson has no legitimate answers
Brian Essi
Posts: 2421
Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 11:46 am

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Brian Essi » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:06 am

And at page 136-137 Summers explains how the Board of Education would be involved in the original LOI.


David Anderson has no legitimate answers
Brian Essi
Posts: 2421
Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 11:46 am

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Brian Essi » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:36 pm

Brian Essi wrote:And at page 136-137 Summers explains how the Board of Education would be involved in the original LOI.



Bump


David Anderson has no legitimate answers
Brian Essi
Posts: 2421
Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 11:46 am

Re: Mayor Ties Active Living Task Force To Clinic Debacle

Postby Brian Essi » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:36 pm

Jim O'Bryan wrote:While Mayor Summers assured us the "Active Living Task Force" had nothing to do with the Cleveland Clinic, his deposition claims it was the Clinic's idea for selling the idea. While Jay Foran director of the active living task force assured us it had nothing to do with the Hospital Debacle, the Mayor's testemoney also hints at using it "to take" other assets in the city including Rec Department, Sports Fields, and other property.

Summers, Michael - Vol. 1 (1/20/2016), (Pages 157:23 to 163:5)
                           157
Question: Exhibit 34, what is that, that's in front of you, as well?
Mayor Summers' Answer: Well, this was, I think, the Clinic, as espoused by Dr. Bronson, with his community-based approach to improving the health of the citizens of Lakewood, the community of Lakewood.

Question: All right.  Now, the date on that appears to be May 15th, 2004.
Mayor Summers' Answer: There were several iterations prior to this.

Question: 2014, right?
Mayor Summers' Answer: 2014.

Question: Correct.  I'm sorry.
Mayor Summers' Answer: Yeah, there were a couple iterations before this. This is Version 8.  This was sort of a living strategic document --

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: -- that reflected, I think, the Clinic's, particularly Dr. Bronson's, view of the evolving nature of both need in the community and some community-based approaches to address those needs.

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: So we understood this particular proposal, and it meant closing the hospital as we knew it as an inpatient facility.

Question: Can you back up, now, on that exhibit there, 34, that you have in front of you.  Version 8, can you take me through the sequence, you know, the time frame from Version 1 to Version 8, what are we looking at here, as far as --
Mayor Summers' Answer: I don't think it changed in terms of substance.  I think there was some refinement of details.

Question: So would have this all been 2014 that these versions were coming together?
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, I believe they started -- we saw the first ones in 2013.

Question: 13, okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: In a broad concept. And Page 9 reflects, I think, the broad-based approach that was contemplated here, where you had some leading organizations --
MR. EHRENFELT:  I'm sorry, which exhibit are we on?
THE WITNESS:  Exhibit 34, Page 9.
MR. EHRENFELT:  Thank you.

Mayor Summers' Answer: That in order to achieve true community-based engagement, you would need the four at the top, City of Lakewood, Hospital Association, the Foundation, Cleveland Clinic.  In addition, you would need the engagement of other partners, such as, but not necessarily specifically, the YMCA, the City Schools, the Rec Department, the Community West Foundation, perhaps others.

Question: Okay.  And is this the genesis, then, of the discussions concerning Rec Center, or the use of the property for something other than for health care?
Mayor Summers' Answer: This was the Cleveland Clinic's view of, to take a community to higher levels of wellness, and to do it on a preventative basis, or early detection, that there had to be a significant engagement of active living.

Question: I understand that. So you had established an Active Living Task Force; is that correct?
Mayor Summers' Answer: Subsequently.  Yeah, subsequently.

Question: So that was after 2014, that Active Living started up, or after the first version?
Mayor Summers' Answer: Probably during 2014.

Question: 2014.
Mayor Summers' Answer: Yeah.

Question: Did you ever indicate to either the members of Lakewood Hospital Association Board, or to the administrators of the Cleveland Clinic, a preference of creating a community center or athletic facilities on the hospital property?
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, not in any detail.  I think there was a recognition in Lakewood that, one, we don't have a lot of land to do any of these types of things well; and secondly, we already had a lot of pieces and parts here; and thirdly, that kind of approach would have to take a significant amount of community engagement. So this was Dr. Bronson's view --

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: -- it was not necessarily my view.  Although I agreed with many pieces and parts of this.  But it was never -- this was never a City-based plan.

Question: Did you have the Active Living Task Force -- who was that, Jay Foran, that was the Chair of that?
Mayor Summers' Answer: There were several members.

Question: Okay.  Jay was very involved in it?
Mayor Summers' Answer: He was, yeah.

Question: Okay.  Were there discussions between you and Mr. Foran concerning the creation of a recreation or community center at the hospital?
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, I think there were questions of, what do we have, what do we need, what's missing, and how might we, as a community, if we're going to re-engage in our second century, which is a pretty common conversation around here, that how can we reconfigure or reuse or adapt our parks, our schools -- which we don't control the City side -- and any piece that would allow us to take -- to increase the opportunity for a citizen to become more physically active, and therefore improve their health.

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: So it was a wide open conversation, and remains so.

Question: All right.  So 2013, one of the versions, as what you've indicated for Exhibit Number 34, and this was initiated by Dr. Bronson; is that correct?
Mayor Summers' Answer: That's correct.

Question: All right.  And you didn't have to -- you did not encourage him or indicate to him that you thought that that would be an outpatient -- the elimination of an inpatient facility of Lakewood Hospital would be okay with you.
MR. CAHILL:  Objection to form.
Mayor Summers' Answer: No, no, I did not indicate it would be okay.

Question: Okay.
Mayor Summers' Answer: We were halfway or two thirds through a strategic review of options. Subsequently, we needed to know, was there somebody who could provide another delivery.

Question: So on the sequence, then, you had nine versions of Exhibit 34 that were the Cleveland Clinic proposals, and then at some point in time, then, an RFP was sent out to see if there were other interested parties, and that is what Exhibit Number 33 was part of; is that correct?
MR. CAHILL:  Objection to the extent it misstates facts.
Mayor Summers' Answer: This was the -- should a party indicate interest, they would have gotten this.

Question: Okay.  All right. Did the Cleveland Clinic get this, 33?
Mayor Summers' Answer: I don't know, because we already knew they were not interested in the inpatient.  You know, you mentioned this clause, you know, of inpatient requirements.  And we knew their views --

Yet another charade uncovered, and the lies that hid it.

.


Bump


David Anderson has no legitimate answers

Return to “Lakewood General Discussions”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 70 guests