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 Post subject: 50 scary white dudes running through streets - UPDATED!
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:09 pm 
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Apparently the shootings and stabbings that occurred in the area of The Foundry may not have been caused by band members taking the battle of the bands to a new level.

Bystanders have reported that "Fifty scary white dudes dressed in black, carrying guns, machetes and baseball bats were running through the streets messing people up."

Obviously besides the number of people who have been taken to the hospital, there is a lot to sort out.

The crime scene is three blocks long, W 114th street to the Phantasy at Hird Avenue, over a hundred people involved.

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More here as soon as we get it.

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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets with machet
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:39 pm 
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Update:

2 people were taken to Metro, 2 to Fairview. There are bullet casings all over the parking lot. According to witnesses the mob of young white men dressed in black were randomly attacking people. One man was pulled from a parked car and beaten, guns were fired randomly into the crowd gathering for the Metal Fest.

One witness said that they thought that this was something to do with a grudge match between two of the bands. Right now, what exactly happened and why is not clear.

More updates to come.

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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets with machet
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:24 pm 
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Uploading photos from the scene.

Nadhal and I got there minutes after the police, the crime scene was crazy, and long
extending from NTW Tire east to West 112th Street.

Got two eyewitness interviews as well, they will be uploaded shortly.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets with machet
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:32 pm 
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The scene at 6:40pm police and a crime scene that went for blocks! Photos by Jim O'Bryan

The Foundry Concert Club, 11729 Detroit Ave., near W.117th St. in Lakewood was the center of a gruesome mob attack that has thus far sent 4 people to nearby hospitals.

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Crime scene before being roped off by the police.

Witnesses first described seeing the crowd dressed in all black near The Brothers Lounge in Cleveland near W. 117th St.

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Lakewood Police hold one of 4 groups detained in the attack at Brother's Lounge Parking
lot, where some say the entire mob assembled.

According to the server staff at the My Friends restaurant in Cleveland "They were all wearing black. They were all gathered near here and then they all went running, some went behind The Brothers Lounge, some went behind Pizza Hut, some went behind Walgreens. They were running towards that club" (Foundry Concert Club). "As they ran
back past the restaurant, one of them left a hammer in our doorway. The police took it."

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Rayshawn Williams and Alexandria Wagner, standing where they witnessed the attack.

Meanwhile in Lakewood, Alexandria Wagner was standing near Coutant Ave and described a crowd of approximately 50 people wearing all black crossing over from Cleveland with machetes, baseball bats, batons, and guns."They came from Cleveland, I don't know what there reasoning was but they were very upset"

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Toyia Malaieb who also witnessed the shooting and attack.

While leaving Value World, eyewitness Toyia Malaieb, described the chaotic scene that led to the bloody attack "There was three guys beating up one guy on the street and then another group of guys wearing all black pulled one of the guys out of the car and they began to beat him".

Minutes later, according to Maleib, "a scary white guy with a beard wearing all black came out of nowhere and started shooting aimlessly into the crowd, then shot up in the air three times".

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The Foundry

After the shots were fired, according to eye witnesses, the large group dispersed through side streets in Lakewood and Cleveland.

According to the Lakewood Police Department, at the time of this writing, 10 arrests have been made.

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Car window shot out. and bullet casing.

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Another bullet casing.

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Four more casings that had been collected.

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Another ambulance leaves the area, this one with a man that had been hit over the head
with a beer bottle from the mob and was bleeding heavily.

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The crime scene went east on Detroit ave. to West 114th Street with groups of white males
being held for questioning. Or people being treated.

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Musicians leave the venue.

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The police at the alley they ran down before the attack, and there was spots of blood after it.

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Scene of the shooting, though no one has a gun shot wound. Yet! All the wounds are
from the machetes.

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From the Foundry you can see the police and ambulances line the street as they arrive.

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Detained by police.

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Leaving the scene we had heard of ten arrests.

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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets with machet
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:59 pm 
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Getting a lot of "Ohhhh Lakewood, what do you expect..." "Ohhhhh Lakewood going down the drain."

Bullshit.

This is crazy shit.Crazy shit happens anywhere.

The group gathered in Cleveland. I am not faulting Cleveland for sending this nightmare over.

Please, let's get a hold of ourselves.

I love this city, and this has not dampened my spirit.

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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets with machet
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:21 am 
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Police still working the crime scene.

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Blood splatters everywhere leading down Detroit Ave.

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Latest update as of 1:05 am 04.20.2014

18 people arrested. 4 people wounded, none seriously.

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Now That's Class, where the attack was planned.

It now seems that the entire feud was between two Death Metal Bands from Boston, that are bitter
enemies and hate each other. One band was playing at "Now That's Class" told some of their fans back
in Boston about the other band they drove in with weapons, which included a machete, aluminum
baseball bats flattened and sharpened, and at least three guns.

The band and friends came from Now That's Class and met with their armed friends from Boston, and
headed into Lakewood to create havoc and hurt the rival band.

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I swear to god. I know it sounds like some terrible B-Movie headed to a dance off, but instead, they
swarmed the parking lot next to the Foundry and created havoc. Now many people have reported that
the fight started in the Foundry, actually no one in the Foundry actually knew of the fight, until someone
ran in yelling, "Someone just got shot in the parking lot," said one of the people in the Foundry that wished
to remain nameless. "So everyone in the bar ran outside thinking they would see a dead body or something, they
ran by hitting or trying to stab some of the patrons that crowded the sidwalk. It was just like the Sharks and the Jets!"

They they ran back into Cleveland and Now That's Class which explains why the crime scene went
from The Foundry to West 114th Street.

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Bar workers wait to get their cars.

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So much for anti Lakewood babble.

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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:56 am 
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The following morning things get clearer or do they?

Domestic Terrorism Comes To Lakewood

Talking with people that are into the "Hard-Core Metal Scene" tell the tale of two "Crews" the names
given to the bands/follower of the bands. One Crew is from Boston, Friends Stand United (FSU) and the
other Swing On Sight Family (SOSF) out of Youngstown, not Boston as reported earlier.

According to Wikipedia "Elgin James founded FSU, which originally stood for "Fuck Shit Up", in the late 1980s in Boston, Massachusetts. He formed FSU to attack, beat and purge drug dealers and violent White supremacist, Neo-nazi and other various racist gangs from punk rock concerts.[1]

FSU has established chapters in many major cities in the United States, Canada and North East England. The group has splintered several times since its initial incarnation, with different chapters holding different values. Universally, the group espouses violence as a valid means to accomplish their goals.[2]
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My source in the scene, said you cannot think of these "crews" as simply fans or bands, you should of
think of them as motorcycle gangs. Actually the FBI lists FSU as domestic terrorists, and was featured
on the History Channel's "Gangland Series" on National Geographic, and made the cover of The Rolling Stone.

The bands for Fire Fest a mutli-day event were split between two venues with three playing at Now
That's Class in Cleveland.

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When the violence reared its ugly head and talk of violence started to circulate, "Now That's Class"
stopped the show, though stayed open. It is now believed this is where and when they left and hooked
up with the rest of their crew, and went to do battle with the other "crew" and arch enemy.

This is when they gathered in the parking lot for Brother's Lounge as reported by the witness at
My Friend's Diner in Cleveland.

It should be noted that Now That's Class remained opened, and DJ Parker did hit the
stage, and did his show with little difference except some police and FBI talking to the
audience. That The Foundry never closed its door nor stopped the concerts and remained
open. The actual fight was never in any of the bars and was limited to the streets of
Lakewood and Cleveland.

This does not appear to be the fault of the clubs, just one of those perfect storms type thing.

My source in the scene said "This crew violence shit has been going on for as long as I can remember,
but this is the most insane incident I can think of."

Every member of the "scene" i spoke with demanded to remain anonymous saying "If
these guys are willing to drive from Boston to do this, I do not want them mad at me."

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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets - UPDATED!
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:29 pm 
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Looks like there is better reporting being done on the Lakewood Observer than at the Plain Dealer. No surprise there.

We were having dinner at Peppers at the time of the incident. (Which was excellent. Peppers has some of the best Italian around.) Cop cars and an ambulance from Rocky River. Lakewood police did a fine job of restoring order.

The population in Lakewood is increasing (slightly) and home values are increasing faster than the Ohio average. A well maintained home is selling in days. We have come along way. I hope that the Plain Dealers poor reporting doesn't do to much damage.

Of course, I sometimes think the PD's reporting on Lakewood is DESIGNED to do damage to Lakewood.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets - UPDATED!
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It's now been picked up by Blabbermouth, a popular heavy metal site:

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It is not presently clear why the fight was started but an online posting from The Foundry's general manager Mark Witherspoon and reports on LakewoodObserver.com say the incident was the result of "beef" between two "crews" — one from Boston, Friends Stand United (FSU) and the other Swing On Sight Family (SOSF), out of Youngstown, Ohio.


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/four-p ... land-ohio/

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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets - UPDATED!
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As of 2pm 22 arrested. More arrests are expected on Monday when they begin the process of charging
and arraigning those detained.

If you think about it, a mob attack on the edge of Lakewood, with people coming in out of town, through
from Cleveland, flash attacking, and returning to one block into Cleveland, and their vehicles. The fact
that the Lakewood Police have 18 people sitting in jail within2 hours, and 22 by morning would indicate
to me,
1) the wrong city to get crazy in

Lakewood takes our fun seriously, along with our safety.

2) Lakewood Police are totally badass about their getting to work response time.

I got there 10 minutes after the call went out, and they were well and truly more than half way to those
18 arrests with everyone running and scattering.

Good work Lakewood Police and Fire, Cleveland Police, Rocky River Police and whoever showed up.

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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets - UPDATED!
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Anybody remember the big street fight in 1990 outside of Taco Bell? A group of individuals showed up in several cars with baseball bats and metal pipes. I don't know of any arrests but I do remember a person being shoved through the glass door at Taco Bell. I was a high school sophomore doing the Detroit Shuffle. I got out of there quick that night and ran home.


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I'm hoping that the injuries were among the participants themselves, and not any uninvolved locals. Any news?


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 Post subject: Re: 50 scary white dudes running through streets - UPDATED!
 Post Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:13 am 
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A few thoughts ...

    LO reporting, awesome!

    LPD and other first responders, awesome!

    Mayor and City Council, typical responses.

    Lakewood Hospital, was anyone treated there and, if not, why not?

    Residents, love this great city!

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Matthew John Markling wrote:
Lakewood Hospital, was anyone treated there and, if not, why not?


Probably because they had more serious injuries than Lakewood Hospital was equipped for. Metro & Fairview are Level I & II Trauma Centers, respectively.

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